Marxist World – Who We Are

A struggle within the Socialist Party of England and Wales and Socialist Party Scotland (both part of the Committee for a Workers International) started nearly two years ago over Marxist theory, which soon led to a questioning of the ideas held by the leadership.

Two members, Steve Dobbs and Bruce Wallace, were declared “indefinitely suspended” by the CWI leadership in 2014 for spurious apolitical reasons, but in reality were expelled (in all but name) for raising Marxist ideas and challenging the wisdom of the Socialist Party Executive Committee - namely Peter Taaffe and Lynn Walsh.

Throughout the period prior to suspension, Steve and Bruce continuously enquired about the right to form a faction, which, according to the constitutions of both respective parties, is the right of all members. These requests were completely ignored and, in one case, facetiously rejected outright.

As members of the CWI, we had no choice but to form a faction (despite the refusal of the SP to recognise us and grant us faction rights) to defend the genuine ideas of Marx, Lenin and Trotsky from centrist and reformist distortion.

Our criticism of the Socialist Party Executive Committee

We outlined our primary differences with the Socialist Party leadership in three documents we produced that were circulated in internal members’ bulletins, plus additional articles we hosted on our website, some of which we submitted to the editorial of Socialism Today (the SP journal) but were never published. In brief, our criticisms of the Socialist Party EC are:

  1. They reject that declining profit rates were behind the 2007/8 crisis and subsequent Great Recession, and instead hide behind a “multi-casual” explanation of capitalist crisis. This is a reflection of capitalist economic theory that is based on under-consumptionism (“lack of demand”) and Keynesian ideas. They reject the Law of the Tendency of the Rate of Profit to Fall (LTRPF) which forms an integral part of Marx’s theory as outlined in Volume 3 of Capital.
  2. This under-consumptionist theory marries up with a reformist, Keynesian solution to the crisis in order to “increase demand”, which is also promoted in the Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition (TUSC) and the National Shop Stewards Network (NSSN).
  3. The Keynesian programme also attempts to align the party with the official full-time Trade Union leadership and win influence with them, instead of building a clear socialist, rank and file alternative to the TU-bureaucracy.
  4. Their reformist attitude to the capitalist state, such that a parliamentary party can bring about socialism through a Keynesian spending programme.
  5. The undemocratic leadership style of the Socialist Party, which we understand as bureaucratic centralism, and lack of genuine democratic centralism. We believe that open democratic debate is healthy and essential within any revolutionary Party in order for the membership to keep the leadership in check, to educate members and raise the theoretical level of the entire organisation. We also reject the slate system in this context, which tends to reproduce the leadership in its own image without challenges.
  6. We reject the current “dual strategy” of simultaneously building a reformist Party and a revolutionary Party. In practice, the former takes places at the expense of the latter, which paves the way for watering-down of Marxist ideas.
  7. Furthermore, we reject the notion that the Labour Party is a bourgeois party, no different to the Conservatives. Whilst the direction of the Labour Party was certainly towards an American style Democratic Party, this process of bourgeoisification did not complete, and in fact is beginning to reverse under Corbyn at this time. We regard the Labour Party as a bourgeois-workers Party, and therefore regard the idea of building another reformist electoral Party, such as TUSC, as a mistake.

Breaking with the Socialist Party/CWI

We have come to the conclusion that the very nature of the undemocratic structures of the Socialist Party and CWI make it impossible to change or reform it in any meaningful manner. There has been no contested election for leadership in living memory. Along the way, we have won support from current and ex-members of the CWI. However, many of those current members have subsequently left the CWI (although not Marxist World) because of the bureaucratic barriers and methods used against them. The lack of internal democracy makes the task of putting forward our ideas without distortion, bureaucratic manoeuvres and, in some cases, outright harassment, virtually impossible. Unlike the Socialist Party EC, we have no intention of repudiating the fundamentals of Marxism. We have no choice but to leave the Socialist Party/CWI.

We split from the Socialist Party/CWI partly with regret because of the history of “Trotskyism” and the seemingly endless history of splits and splits of splits. For example, in recent years the SWP has had two splits and Workers Power three. In many ways these are manifestations of the crisis within so-called Marxism following the 2007/8 economic crisis and the perspectives and methods of these organisations. Yet all these splits have either recreated the same bureaucratic centralist structures as their parent organisation, or threw out the baby with the bath water and abandoned the notion of an independent revolutionary party. Either way the effect on the rest of the Left has been demoralisation, disgust and distrust towards revolutionary Marxism.

Militant Tendency - Roots of degeneration

During the process of clarifying our political positions over the last several years, we have been forced to critically examine not simply the Socialist Party but its precursor, the Militant Tendency. From this we have drawn the conclusion that, while maintaining orthodox Marxist economic theory until the early 90’s and maintaining various correct positions such as:

1. The political independence of Marxism from reformism, shown for example in Militant’s refusal to endorse the Alternative Economic Strategy of the Bennite left,
2. Permanent revolution in the neo-colonial world, without capitulation to guerrillaism,
3. The Trotskyist conception of political revolution in the Stalinist countries, without raising illusions that the national bureaucracy of any such country could reform itself away.

None the less it must be conceded that, from its inception, Militant did not have a genuine approach to democratic-centralism. The bureaucratic-centralist organisational model that exists in the Socialist Party was, fundamentally, in Militant as well.

The only difference was that, in carrying out an entryist strategy in the Labour Party under extremely hostile conditions where Militant had to formally deny they even existed as a group, there were only limited opportunities for open discussion, with members accepting the need for a high degree of centralism to defend the organisation. This was exploited by the leadership of Militant to impose their bureaucratic-centralist system.

Also, there existed in Militant’s leadership two secret, undeclared, factions, one around Peter Taaffe and one around Ted Grant. In both factions’ political manoeuvring, they would at times lean upon the rank and file to bring pressure to bare on the other. This required a more active membership that the leadership could engage with and ensured that a higher level of discussion and debate, within limits, took place in Militant. This is why when, following the Grant/Taaffe split, both former factions were able to fully consolidate their position in their own organisations, and we saw a decline in the relatively more involved membership and its replacement with a more passive one.

In our view, this accelerated the opportunist and reformist trajectory of the leaderships of both factions abandoning many Marxist positions over the preceding period. It should be noted that the vast majority of our criticisms of the Socialist Party EC are equally applicable to Socialist Appeal, who hold an under-consumptionist position on the cause of crisis and maintain the same bureaucratic-centralist leadership style.

Where We Stand

We make it clear that we would be willing to work within or join any revolutionary organisation that adheres to the fundamental ideas of Marxism as we’ve previously defended, whilst guaranteeing genuine democratic centralist rights and faction rights for members based on democratic open discussion and unity in specific actions.

As we are unaware such an organisation currently exists, we are in favour of building an independent revolutionary Party. We do not claim to be a Party at this stage. We seek to reach the leftward moving youth, particularly in the wake of Corbyn’s victory to Labour leadership, and those Marxists who have come to reject the bureaucratic methods of the so-called Trotskyist parties.

Next year we will be producing a hard-copy journal, in addition to more regular updates on the website, to help propagate Marxist ideas and encourage debate and discussion within the workers movement. The rebuilding of genuine Marxism will not be an easy task, but we encourage all those interested to contact us and join us in our mission to forge a new class-struggle organisation based on razor sharp theory and polemic.

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11 Comments

    • Gerry Downing

      Good positions and open democratic structures to allow continued distances. Position on Corbyn not spelled out. There are many ex CWI members in the Labour party who could be won if a clear tactic of orientation to Labour was adopted. And international positions on the the SNP, the EU referendum, Greece, Ukraine etc. In keeping with the new serious attitude to real democratic centralism, a “seething internal democracy” as Trotsky described the internal regime of the Bolsheviks, open minority majority should be possible on all issues with the condition that all members must actively support the majority programme one an activity is engaged in and not publicly undermine in. For instance Zinoviev publicly supported the second revolution in1917 until the date of the insurrection was decided when he did break DC and Lenin wanted to expel him and Kamanev for that

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    • Shari Holden

      It’s a bit unfair to leave out the bit about the regional Debates and members bulletin.

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    • Pointed

      Why are you calling it a split? It is not a split. In no way can this be called a split. It is simply “two members leaving a group after a disagreement”. It’s the height of egoism for you to call it a split.

      If you continue to characterise the two of you leaving an organisation over differences as “a split”, people will start seeing you as being dishonest.

      Also, your comments form is buggy as hell. The email field has a “phone” icon - so I put my email in the section that had a mail icon. The form was then rejected - but when I paged back to change it, the entire form had been wiped. That’s a truly bad piece of coding - it should NEVER happen. Your code should NEVER take you to a separate page to give an error message, if it’s then going to wipe the content out that the person took time to type.

      Also, you’ve got some bad code in here that changes the first letter of every word into a capital, in the comments input box. I don’t know if that will change when it posts, but it’s definitely a big problem while typing.

      So: stop calling it a “split” and start calling it “2 of us have left because we disagree with the leadership”, and please fix all the problems with your site.

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      • Steve Bush

        Only two members eh? Two members were suspended, forever - expulsion by any other name, but of course ‘nobody is ever expelled from the CWI’. The rest of us left. There are certainly more than two of us, and a lot more than just the eleven of us who formed a faction have left the CWI in the last . I’m not sure that a ‘split’ is the best term either, simply because what kind of numbers do sects have to have in order to have splits? The right place for Marxists now anyway is clearly inside the Labour Party rather than forming yet more tiny fragments to add to the fantasia of sects on the left. Which is precisely why we are publishing a theoretical journal rather than ‘selling papers and recruiting’

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    • Victor Conti

      Sorry you had problems with the comments box this does need improvement. Whilst bad code doesn’t quite lead to bad politics like bad economics, it’s important to have a decent UX these days.

      I Would however like to contest the charge that Marxist World consists of the two people mentioned. In fact We have rather a lot more supporters across England and wales, Scotland, Ireland, the US, Portugal, Bolivia, Germany and elsewhere.

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    • Luke Gregory-Jones

      message

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      • admin

        Hi Luke, I think there was a problem with your comment as it just says ‘message’?

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    • Ned

      Lol. Agree with “Pointed “. The SWP split wiped out virtually their entire campus presence and half their total membership. 11 people IN THE WORLD signed your documents. This is all a bit grandiloquent.

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      • Victor

        Ned, thanks for your comment. On the question of numbers, I refer you to my response to Pointed with whom you agree: Marxist World has supporters in at least six countries and we happen to be attracting supporters quickly. To say that the publication of a statement announcing a decision which has been taken is ‘a bit grandiloquent’ implies that you think we should have kept silent about it?

        On the criticism of the at of splitting itself as opposed to the decision to publish something about it on our own website, that is taken up in the statement:

        “We split from the Socialist Party/CWI partly with regret because of the history of “Trotskyism” and the seemingly endless history of splits and splits of splits. For example, in recent years the SWP has had two splits and Workers Power three. In many ways these are manifestations of the crisis within so-called Marxism following the 2007/8 economic crisis and the perspectives and methods of these organisations. Yet all these splits have either recreated the same bureaucratic centralist structures as their parent organisation, or threw out the baby with the bath water and abandoned the notion of an independent revolutionary party. Either way the effect on the rest of the Left has been demoralisation, disgust and distrust towards revolutionary Marxism.”

        The same mindset which characterises the both the parent organisations and offspring of so many Trotskyist splits which you seem to demonstrate in your remark that our statement is ‘a bit grandiloquent’ (the opinion that smaller groups of dissenters within an organisation should keep their mouths shut about serious disagreements so the “leadership” can enact grand strategies without disruption or criticism from within) is part of the bureaucratic centralist crap which we are rejecting.

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    • Samuel Coxson

      What part of the TUSC core policy platform is reformist?

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    • Gerry Downing

      Socialist Fight welcomes the left split of Marxist World (MW) from the Committee for a Workers International (CWI). On 3 November a group of comrades led by Steve Dobbs and Bruce Wallace split from the CWI sections in Britain, the Socialist Party of England and Wales and Socialist Party Scotland. They have been denigrated by the CWI as ‘only two’ to marginalise them and the political significance of the issues on which they fought. They say the “we split from the Socialist Party/CWI partly with regret” but we might argue that they should have split earlier as they were making no headway in the political battle within the CWI because of its bureaucratic structures; some of their supporters had left the SP but remained within the Marxist World, the name of the new group, the new journal due out in January and their website.
      Moreover the two central issues on which they split; the defence of the Marxist Law of the Tendency of the Rate of Profit to Fall (LTRPF) against Keynesian economics and the assertion of the need to rediscover genuine democratic centralism (the second as a consequence of overstaying their welcome in the SP?) are absolutely vital questions for the future of revolutionary Trotskyism.
      The LTRPF is central to the reform vs. revolution approach not only to our ultimate goal, the overthrow of capitalism on the planet, but also the method with which we fight for that aim.
      Socialist Fight has argued with the comrades in the past that the whole history of post-war Trotskyism needs reassessing and that Grantism was no more genuine Trotskyism than was Healyism, Mandelism or Cliffism.
      If Healyism was an objectivist workerist catastrophism, Mandelism was an objectivist petty-bourgeois anti-working-class substitutionalism and Cliffism was a state capitalist capitulation to petty-bourgeois public opinion over the defence of the nationalised property relations in USSR despite the crimes of Stalinism Grantism was semi-reformism on the question of the state and state forces, the trade union bureaucracy and imperialism.
      It boils down to a ‘Trotskyist’ version of the CPGB’s British Road to Socialism with workers used as a stage army to defend the socialist revolution won in the chamber of a bourgeois parliament via Enabling Acts etc. Its not just economic reformism that is the problem but the 1973 Allende perspectives that flow from it.
      However the struggle for genuine Democratic Centralism vs. the Bureaucratic Centralism that prevailed in the SLL/WRP, the IS/SWP and Grantism in all its forms is inspiring. Its absence was blatantly obvious in the splits in the SWP over Marin Smith’s abuse of young female comrade. We hope you do establish a “seething internal democracy” as Trotsky described the internal regime of the Bolsheviks. Open minority and majority position should not only be allowed but encouraged to plumb the depths of political problems and not sweep them under the carpet.
      This should be possible on all issues with the proviso that all members must actively support the majority programme once an activity is decided upon and engaged in; opponents should not then publicly undermine it. For instance Zinoviev publicly supported the second revolution in 1917 until the date of the insurrection was decided although he did not really agree with it. When he and Kamenev publicly opposed and thus revealed the date of the insurrection this was an open breach of DC and Lenin wanted to expel them both for that.
      However we acknowledge this is a leftist and very progressive split. We are pleased with the far better attitude to the election of Jeremy Corbyn, the acknowledgement that Labour remained a bourgeois-workers’ party, the willingness to engage in the new forms of political struggle opening up in a democratising Labour party and we hope that many opportunities will present themselves for joint united front work in Momentum and the Labour Representation Committee between them and progressive grouping like Socialist Labour and Labour Party Marxists.
      There are many ex CWI members in the Labour party who can be won if clear tactics of work within Labour are adopted.

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